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The simplicity and elegance of using wood as a building material is to me unparalleled. It is strong, flexible, resilient, non-toxic (for the most part), and imbued with an inherent beauty that is hard to match. The trials of working with concrete and steel send me running back to wood despite their "superior" physical capabilities and "modern" aesthetic.
I would love to see some performance specs of all wood houses. Can they compete with super insulated houses and do they try? The wood fiber insulation in the passiv haus assembly looks like celotex, is it better? Do they try to make all wood buildings tight? I know it is hard to nail down costs but do they have any comparisons to more conventional building styles? I realize the the comparisons are rarely apples to apples but when I talk to clients and fellow builders it is always the first question they ask. Finally, would you consider integrating all wood walls into your own business. The future is bright but the road ahead still seems a little murky. Thanks a lot. chris chitty
Another perceptual difference: it's wood that now holds sway with the "modern" aesthetic in Europe. Concrete and steel have higher embodied energy, so it's not cool to be modern with an increased carbon footprint.
The information I've seen is rather inconclusive, unfortunately. Wood is a reasonably good heat sink and has natural moisture diffusing characteristics. These are positives. Would massive wood walls for high performance buildings? Yes. In a word..if I could justify it financially. In Europe, the cost comparisons are good, but we don't have the same forestry practices and don't have a good system for using low grade lumber in this way. It would take some serious studies and probably some trial runs to see if we could make the same thing work here. In New England, I'm interested in hemlock and some of the soft maples for this purpose. They are currently junk wood and tend to serve no higher purpose than pulp and firewood. Surely, we can use these woods for something more noble and enduring! So, I don't have an answer to your questions. We'll have to do a little research to figure this one out. My question is: if we could build homes this way, would there be a market if the cost was competitive?
In a word; yes. At least in my opinion. It seems to me that a small but important section of our population is totally open to innovation especially if the cost was competitive. I think it would require sexy design and edgy marketing at some sort of critical scale but it seems to me that if we could create the Iphone of housing, not only could there be a market but it might even command a small price premium.
Out here in Montana we have almost limitless supplies of low quality wood that the forests desperately need to be rid of. A value added product that would make profitable the rehabilitation of our national forests in a carbon neutral way is one holy grail of economic and environmental policy in the West. I have heard rumblings about people trying to get a project going out here but I fear there is a chicken/egg problem in selling such a project. As always I fear the engineers are a quantum leap ahead of the marketers and we will be forced to wait till they catch up.
I hope you are right about consumer interest. If that is the case, it will take off eventually. I've been watching European environmental policies and building advances for the last 20 years. By my calculation, we are about 6 to 10 years behind, but what happens here does somehow learn from what happens over there.
Do you think the US has enough trees which can be sustainably harvested to build thick, solid wood walled buildings on a large scale? I assume we build up to tens of thousands of new homes a year (somewhat less in the down economy) while Central and Northern Europe likely build far fewer homes. While I like this concept and the architecture, I doubt that this can be done on a large scale in the US. I agree that we can learn a lot from their approach home building.
I'm not sure, of course. But I do know that in many parts of the country our forests products are under utilized. The lessons here from Europe are in two parts: 1. The success of their forestry practices and 2. The "highest and best use" of their forestry products.
I'm intrigued by the European innovative approach to using wood well and wisely; the combination of natural products and automation; and the energy-efficient product that will last much longer than the life of the trees from which they came. We shouldn't copy the Europeans because we have a different ecological context, but we ought to be humbled and inspired.
Tedd,
Here's a company i came across that is based in my old stomping ground of the Flathead Valley. http://solidwoodwalls.com/ Looks like they are trying to roll out a solid wood wall product utilizing the almost endless supply of small diameter beetle kill wood in the Intermountain Northwest. Good to see you at Greenbuild this year! Patrick
Ted, As an avid cyclist and woodworker I enjoyed the opening of your post (been there all too often). I have experienced riding with some of the best europeans during my racing days. These days, with the surge in being "green" here in the states and having read so much about how many of the european countries have been focusing on sustainability and efficient building, it was also a good read to see first hand the latest direction they are going. With the US much in it's adolescent stages of social development, one can only hope we will look to the leaders and follow suit. that said, Having worked with Bensonwood on a home here in NY I have come to appreciate even more than before how amazing a home can be if given enough thought to the design, build, landscape, and decorating of that home. A true team effort from Bill holtz right down to the active involvement of the homeowners and all of us in between. and to create a structure destined to stand the test of time is truly the greenest thing we can do. Thanks for the experience. I'm a better builder because of it.
great stuff Ted,
Any info on who makes these thermal-bridge-less wall studs? Couldn't find much info on Hans's company website. cheers,
Daniel,
Sorry, I haven't been able to find it either. It didn't come from Hundegger and I also know it's not available here. We are looking into importing certain products, but will need more volume to make it work. Tedd |
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